America Wants Less Reliance on Foreign Metals - And This Nevada Play Fits the National Shift

The U.S. is working to reduce dependence on China and Russia for strategic metals like copper, silver, gold, and tungsten. Guardian Metal's recent results confirmed these metals are active in this Nevada corridor - and its stock is up 300%+ YTD. A new explorer on the same belt is entering early as America pivots back to domestic supply.

Did DeepSeek copy ChatGPT? Trump adviser thinks so

MATT O'BRIEN and KELVIN CHAN
January 29, 2025

Did the upstart Chinese tech company DeepSeek copy ChatGPT to make the artificial intelligence technology that shook Wall Street this week?

That's what ChatGPT maker OpenAI is suggesting, along with U.S. President Donald Trump's top AI adviser. Neither has disclosed specific evidence of intellectual property theft, but the comments could fuel a reexamination of some of the assumptions that led to a panic in the U.S. over DeepSeek's advancements.

"There's substantial evidence that what DeepSeek did here is they distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI's models," David Sacks, Trump's AI adviser, told Fox News on Tuesday. "And I don't think OpenAI is very happy about this."

DeepSeek and the hedge fund it grew out of, High-Flyer, didn't immediately respond to emailed questions Wednesday, the start of China's extended Lunar New Year holiday.

OpenAI said in a statement that China-based companies "are constantly trying to distill the models of leading U.S. AI companies" but didn't publicly call out DeepSeek specifically.

OpenAI's official terms of use ban the technique known as distillation that enables a new AI model to learn by repeatedly querying a bigger one that's already been trained. The company has been working with its business partner Microsoft to identify accounts attempting to distill its models and then banning those accounts and revoking their access. Microsoft declined to comment.

OpenAI said it will also work "closely with the U.S. government to best protect the most capable models from efforts by adversaries and competitors to take U.S. technology."

The San Francisco company has itself been accused of copyright theft in lawsuits from media organizations, book authors and others in cases that are still working through courts in the U.S. and elsewhere.

Even before DeepSeek news rattled markets Monday, many who were trying out the company's AI model noticed a tendency for it to declare that it was ChatGPT or refer to OpenAI's terms and policies.

"If you ask it what model are you, it would say, 'I'm ChatGPT,' and the most likely reason for that is that the training data for DeepSeek was harvested from millions of chat interactions with ChatGPT that were just fed directly into DeepSeek's training data," said Gregory Allen, a former U.S. Defense Department official who now directs the Wadhwani AI Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Such declarations are not necessarily an indication of IP theft -- chatbots are prone to fabricating information. But DeepSeek, despite describing its technology as "open-source," doesn't disclose the data it used to train its model.

"I think that there's a pretty obvious reason for that choice, which is that they harvested ChatGPT for training data," Allen said.

Much about DeepSeek has perplexed analysts poring through the startup's public research papers about its new model, R1, and its precursors.

Among the details that startled Wall Street was DeepSeek's assertion that the cost to train the flagship v3 model behind its AI assistant was only $5.6 million, a stunningly low number compared to the multiple billions of dollars spent to build ChatGPT and other popular chatbots.

The $5.6 million number only included actually training the chatbot, not the costs of earlier-stage research and experiments, the paper said. But the number -- and DeepSeek's relatively cheap prices for developers -- called into question the huge amounts of money and electricity pouring into AI development in the U.S.

DeepSeek was also working under constraints: U.S. export controls on the most powerful AI chips. It said it relied on a relatively low-performing AI chip from California chipmaker Nvidia that the U.S. hasn't banned for sale in China. But in 2022, a social media post from High-Flyer said it had amassed a cluster of 10,000 more powerful Nvidia chips that are now banned in China.

_____

The Associated Press and OpenAI have a licensing and technology agreement that allows OpenAI access to part of AP's text archives.

Continue Reading...

Popular

These 8 Democrats voted with Republicans on the government shutdown deal. Here's how they explain it

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Democratic senators — eight in total — faced almost instant blowback from members of their own party as to allow the Senate to move forward on that would reopen the government.

Time to Say Goodbye to "Old" Dollar? Say Hello to "Trump's New Dollar" - Ad

If you have any money in U.S. dollars... learn how to prepare for "Trump's new dollar"... Because this could be the biggest change to our financial system in 54 years. President Trump even called it: "The greatest revolution in financial technology since the birth of the internet itself."

Veterans Day: What's open, what's closed

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Veterans Day holiday began more than a century ago, albeit under a different name, as a celebration of the end of World War I. Over time its name and purpose evolved into a day of recognition for of as well as those currently serving in uniform.

iPhone Pocket, China Sales, $600 Million Patent Case And More: This Week In Appleverse

Apple made headlines this weekend with a record-breaking TV drama, a viral new accessory, surging iPhone 17 sales in China, and a major $600 million patent ruling.

Trump Signs Law to Launch Dollar 2.0 - Ad

Trump just signed law S.1582, unleashing the biggest money shift in 100+ years. For the first time since 1913, private firms - not the Fed - can mint a "Dollar 2.0." Treasury says it could drain $6.6T from banks and pay 10X current savings rates. Early investors in minting firms could see 40X returns by 2032.

Jim Cramer: Chipotle Is 'Too Expensive,' Buy This Plane Maker

On "Mad Money," Cramer discusses Henry Schein, Bloom Energy, Tyler Technologies, Boeing and Chipotle Mexican Grill.

UPS cargo plane with 3 aboard explodes on takeoff at Louisville airport, igniting huge fire

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A large UPS cargo plane with three people aboard crashed Tuesday while taking off from an airport in Louisville, Kentucky, igniting an explosion and massive fire that left a thick plume of black smoke over the area.

Global Demand for Defense Metals Is Surging 7X - Ad

Lithium, uranium and titanium are at the center of a global race. Nations are scrambling to secure them for fighter jets, EVs, and reactors. One N. American project could help fill the West's critical-minerals gap.

MacKenzie Scott Has Donated More Than $19 Billion, Yet Her Wealth Grows Faster

MacKenzie Scott, the billionaire philanthropist and ex-wife of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, has donated a staggering $19.25 billion since 2020.

Anthony Scaramucci Calls Zohran Mamdani's Win An 'Anger-Based Reaction' To Boomer Policies, Says New NYC Mayor Could Become 'Popular' If...

Anthony Scaramucci, the founder of SkyBridge Capital, described Zohran Mamdani’s victory in New York City's mayoral race as an “anger-based reaction” by the young people against the policies of the boomer generation's political elites.

The Market Just Crossed a Dangerous Line - Ad

The man who predicted the 2008 crash and 2020 says today's soaring markets are NOT a bubble - they're something far stranger and more dangerous. He says it's about to change everything you know about money.

Cathie Wood Goes All-In On Peter Thiel's Crypto Play Bullish With Back-To-Back Million-Dollar Buys

Cathie Wood-led Ark Invest purchased shares in Bullish, a crypto exchange backed by Peter Thiel, through three of its funds. Other key trades were also made, including buying shares in CRISPR and Beam Therapeutics.

Gold Is Surging Again - But This Nevada Opportunity Offers Much More Than Gold - Ad

Gold has been on an incredible run as investors search for safety, inflation hedges, and real assets with staying power. But this Nevada opportunity isn't just another gold story. The region is showing potential across copper, silver, gold, and tungsten - a rare mix tied to electrification, AI demand, and U.S. supply-chain needs.

Washington's struggling economy takes another economic hit from the government shutdown

WASHINGTON (AP) — With the combination of the , the mass firings of government workers and a , the Capital Area Food Bank in Washington is bracing for the swell of people who will need its help before the holiday season.

TSLA, PLTR, IREN And More: 5 Stocks That Dominated Investor Buzz This Week

Retail investors talked up five hot stocks this week (Nov. 3–7) on X and Reddit's r/WallStreetBets: TSLA, PLTR, MSTR, AMD, IREN.

Elon's $25 Trillion Confession - Ad

Elon Musk: "Tesla will become a $25 trillion company." That would make Tesla 8x bigger than Apple today. How is that possible? He admits it's all thanks to this one AI breakthrough that will take AI out of our computer screens and manifest a 250x boom here in the real world.

Zohran Mamdani Wins NYC Mayor Race, Abigail Spanberger Becomes Virginia's First Female Governor In Historic Democratic Win (UPDATED)

U.S. stock futures slipped on election night as Democrat Abigail Spanberger made history by becoming Virginia's first female governor, signaling a major political shift while markets reacted to post-election uncertainty.

Bitcoin's Crash Below $100,000 Isn't The End: Wall Street Vet Says: 'We Have To Get Through This'

For the first time since July, Bitcoin (CRYPTO: BTC) fell below $100,000 on Tuesday as the crypto sell-off saw $1.7 billion in liquidations in 24 hours.

Legally "Skim" $6,361 Into Your Account? - Ad

A former hedge fund manager is now sharing his "Skim Codes" with regular people. They're not stocks. They're not crypto. They're 18-character codes designed to profit from recent market conditions. All you have to do is punch them into an ordinary brokerage account. 84% of these codes have given people the chance to generate cash payouts so far... and his next code is going out any day now.

Donald Trump's Popularity Falls As Shutdown Drags On

President Donald Trump's approval rating has continued to drop, with the latest poll showing a significant decline, raising concerns for the Republican Party as the 2026 midterm elections approach.

Why Are 21 Billionaires Moving Their Money ASAP? - Ad

One of the biggest stock market events in 25 years is rapidly unfolding... The economist who predicted the 2008 Financial Crisis says it will be: "The Biggest Crash of Our Lifetime." It could cut the entire tech marketing by HALF.

Hillary Clinton Says Trump Taking A 'Break' From Gold-And-Marble Interior Renovations To Defy Court Order On SNAP: 'Nero Would Be Proud'

Hillary Clinton criticizes Trump for withholding SNAP benefits during shutdown, accusing him of defying court order and being indifferent to public suffering. Democrats blast Trump for creating hunger crisis and breaking the law.

Britain's Treasury chief prepares the ground for a tax-hiking budget

LONDON (AP) — U.K. on Tuesday signaled she will raise taxes in her budget this month, arguing that the economy is sicker than the government knew when it took office last year.

Elon's Optimus to Mint New "Musk Millionaires" as Soon as Jan 26? - Ad

Elon Musk may be set to create more "Musk Millionaires" as soon as January 26... Because on that day, he's expected to officially launch his Optimus robot... An AI-powered robot that Elon himself says will be capable of "doing anything bar nothing". Now, it's important to point out that Elon hasn't released it to the public yet... But ahead of the launch, one Silicon Valley insider has identified a "backdoor way" for any American to invest in Optimus with a regular brokerage account...

Trump administration moves to loosen restrictions it once supported on a harmful pollutant

WASHINGTON (AP) — Near the end of his first term, President Donald Trump signed into law a bill that and air conditioners. The bipartisan measure brought environmentalists and major business groups into rare alignment on the contentious issue of climate change and won praise across the political spectrum.

Tempus AI Stock (TEM) Slides 6% Overnight: Here's Why The Stock Is Trending

Tempus AI shares fell 6.02% in after-hours trading Tuesday following its third-quarter earnings report.

America Wants Less Reliance on Foreign Metals - And This Nevada Play Fits the National Shift - Ad

The U.S. is working to reduce dependence on China and Russia for strategic metals like copper, silver, gold, and tungsten. Guardian Metal's recent results confirmed these metals are active in this Nevada corridor - and its stock is up 300%+ YTD. A new explorer on the same belt is entering early as America pivots back to domestic supply.

Some Social Security Recipients Won't Have To Wait Until 2026 For COLA Hike

Social Security and SSI recipients will receive a 2.8% cost-of-living adjustment in 2026, with SSI beneficiaries seeing the increase a day earlier due to a federal holiday.

Buy Now Pay Later Can Torpedo Mortgage Chances

BNPL services like Affirm, Klarna, Afterpay, and PayPal Pay Later are popular but can hurt mortgage approval. Lenders scrutinize bank statements and debt-to-income ratio, and new credit models include BNPL data. Loan officers warn of multiple plans inflating DTI.

Time to Say Goodbye to "Old" Dollar? Say Hello to "Trump's New Dollar" - Ad

If you have any money in U.S. dollars... learn how to prepare for "Trump's new dollar"... Because this could be the biggest change to our financial system in 54 years. President Trump even called it: "The greatest revolution in financial technology since the birth of the internet itself."

Japanese game maker Nintendo reports zooming sales and profit on its hit Switch 2 machine

TOKYO (AP) — Japanese video-game maker Nintendo’s net profit jumped 85% in April-September from the year before, as its sales more than doubled following the launch of its hit Switch 2 console in June, the company said Tuesday.

Trump Signs Law to Launch Dollar 2.0 - Ad

Trump just signed law S.1582, unleashing the biggest money shift in 100+ years. For the first time since 1913, private firms - not the Fed - can mint a "Dollar 2.0." Treasury says it could drain $6.6T from banks and pay 10X current savings rates. Early investors in minting firms could see 40X returns by 2032.

TSMC Chief CC Wei Says Nvidia CEO 'Wants More Chips' As Jensen Huang Enjoys Hotpot In Taipei And Praises The Taiwanese Foundry: 'No TSMC, No Nvidia'

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang praised TSMC as vital to his company's success during his Taiwan visit, where he met TSMC chief CC Wei over hotpot and reportedly requested more chips amid surging AI demand and U.S. export restrictions.

Peloton Stock Rallies After Q1 Earnings: Here's Why

Peloton stock climbs after the company released its first-quarter earnings report after Thursday's closing bell.

Global Demand for Defense Metals Is Surging 7X - Ad

Lithium, uranium and titanium are at the center of a global race. Nations are scrambling to secure them for fighter jets, EVs, and reactors. One N. American project could help fill the West's critical-minerals gap.

Trending Now

Information, charts or examples are for illustration and educational purposes only and not for individualized investment management This message contains commercial elements, such as advertising. We only send these offers to those who have opted in to our newsletter. Past performance is not indicative of future results. For these reasons we strongly suggest trading in a DEMO/Simulated account. The information provided by us is for educational and informational purposes only. We make no representations or warranties concerning the products, practices or procedures of any company or entity mentioned or recommended and have not determined if the statements and opinions of the advertiser are accurate, correct or truthful. If you use, act upon or make decisions in reliance on information contained or any external source linked within it, you do so at your own peril and agree to hold us, our officers, directors, shareholders, affiliates and agents without fault.

Copyright technicaltrading.org
Privacy Policy | Terms of Service